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<< review queue entry 69293 - submitted by 'sl89' >> * Wenlin has different definitions for the two variants. The definitions on the C-E dictionaries differ significantly from the way Chinese dictionaries define this word. The definitions on Chinese dictionaries are consistent and usage indicated they are correct. * C-E dictionaries give the pronunciation as shénshendāodāo, while Chinese dictionaries give the pronunciation dàodào for 道道, as expected. GF has the note “口语中也读dāodāo”, which indicates the canonical pronunciation is shénshendàodào, but it is colloquially pronounced as shénshendāodāo, which the variant 神神叨叨 represents. * I am following what Chinese dictionaries seem to imply in redirecting 神神叨叨 to 神神道道, but 神神叨叨 is at least as common, and probably far more common on less formal writing. * "Mumbo jumbo" seems a good translation in many cases, even if it is very colloquial -- 神神叨叨 seems to also be an allusion to pseudo-mystical, incomprehensible speech. ※ 神神叨叨 【Wenlin】 r[eduplicated].f[orm]. 〈coll.〉 chatter; be garrulous/ 【Pleco】 ADJECTIVE DIALECT odd; fantastic; bizarre | 这人神神道道的。 | He’s very odd. ※ 神神道道 【Wenlin】 r[eduplicated].f[orm]. 〈topo.〉 odd; fantastic; bizarre 【Pleco】 ADECTIVE DIALECT odd; fantastic; bizarre | 这人神神道道的。 | He’s very odd. 【规范词典】 形 形容言谈举止异乎寻常, 令人不可思议。 注意：这里的“道道”口语中也读dāodāo。 【现代汉语大词典】 形容言谈举止失常的样子。 | 焦神荒《晨雾》：二十二年过去, 她竟变成神神道道的婆子了, 而且是永峰这样说的。 听起来虽然很神神道道但他们是集体动员 在狩猎 As amazing as this sounds, they're moving like a pack. They're hunting. 庄之蝶说：你不知道老孟现在学气功？汪希眠老婆说：听说过，果然神神道道 的。 孟云房说：什么是神神道道？我已经弄通了《梅花易数》、《大六壬》，《奇门遁甲》、《皇极经世索隐》也是读过三遍，出外做过三次《易经》报告了。 贾平凹《废都》 最早读到的黄永玉的书是《太阳下的风景》，后来又看了《永玉三记》。读后的感受是：到底是艺术大家，才情横溢。黄永玉很会讲故事，讲别人的故事，也讲他自己的故事，讲得眉飞色舞，听者如痴如醉。他的文章就像其画一样，长于夸张、演绎。我不大爱看神神道道 、蔓衍无枝的东西，而黄永玉则不然，虽是编出来的东西，但有所本。 《人民日报海外版》2001年02月26日 * 你的孩子缺的只是管教 不是什么神神叨叨的心理治疗 What your kid needs is discipline, not a bunch of psychological mumbo jumbo. 瞧他神神叨叨的，脑子肯定不正常 What the hell... he's blabbering. I think he's gone mad, sir. Every time I ascended to the deck from my watches below, I instantly gazed aft to mark if any strange face were visible; for my first vague disquietude touching the unknown captain, now in the seclusion of the sea, became almost a perturbation. This was strangely heightened at times by the ragged Elijah’s diabolical incoherences uninvitedly recurring to me, with a subtle energy I could not have before conceived of. 出海以来，几乎每时每刻我都怀有一种与亚哈船长不期而遇的不安。在甲板上，我会突然回过头来，疑心后面有一张陌生的面孔正盯着我。以利亚那神神叨叨 的鬼话无疑是形成我这种焦虑不安的心情的一个重要因素。 Herman Melville, Moby-Dick 另外，人物之间的对白，常常是你问我答，一句还一句，这样的对话活像是两个人在念小说，显得生硬。剧中人物时有大段道白，可多是不着边际神神叨叨 的痴人说梦。 人民日报《2002年02月08日》 -------------------------------------- Editor: 1) If the expressions have different pinyin, as in this case, we use /see .../ because we don't regard them as variants. 2) GF says it's a stative verb (形) rather than a dynamic verb ("to speak ...; to talk ..."), and both of the Chinese dicts quoted say it's about 言谈举止, not just 言谈. The following definition doesn't even mention speaking: 神神叨叨就是说某个人做事有点不合乎常理，与平常个人想得做的不一样，有点怪。 The following examples support the notion that it's stative, and that it's not specifically about one's manner of speaking. 这部神神叨叨的悬疑神剧即将回归， 高中生，自己的一個朋友變得神神叨叨的。 为什么大科学家们晚年都变得神神叨叨？ 我父亲变得神神叨叨，我该怎么办?! 一部神神道道的荒诞喜剧，点开电影有惊喜！ 日本这个国家似乎天生就很神神叨叨，只是这一次刷新了我的认知。 最想讲是最后一段，真的很神神叨叨！我他妈看得毛骨悚然鸡皮疙瘩都起来了，但同时我又很想笑！....就很无语！ 很多人怀孕后变得神神叨叨，早期怕孕吐、中期怕排畸、晚期怕早产，整个孕期在担惊受怕中度过。 |
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# 神神道道 神神道道 [shen2 shen5 dao4 dao4] /to speak in a weird or incoherent way/to talk nonsense/mumbo jumbo/ # 神神叨叨 神神叨叨 [shen2 shen5 dao1 dao1] /variant of 神神道道[shen2 shen5 dao4 dao4]/ # + 神神道道 神神道道 [shen2 shen5 dao4 dao4] /odd/weird/abnormal/ + 神神叨叨 神神叨叨 [shen2 shen5 dao1 dao1] /see 神神道道[shen2 shen5 dao4 dao4]/ |