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Change log entry 90218
Processed by: richwarm (2025-06-11 22:37:13 UTC)
Comment: << review queue entry 82519 - submitted by 'bezier_benzoate' >>
梵 is always fan4
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Editor: "Always fan4"? True in theory, but not in practice.

One of Wiktionary's senior editors put the following in the entry for 梵高:
(Pinyin): Fàngǔ, Fángǔ
https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%E6%A2%B5%E9%AB%98&direction=next&oldid=61331711

Deepseek corroborates:
Q: In mainland china, how is "van gogh" usually written (in hanzi)?
A: The name "Vincent van Gogh" (the Dutch painter) is most commonly written in Hanzi as:
梵高 (Fángāo) = van Gogh
"梵" (Fán) – Chosen for its phonetic approximation to "van" (though it’s more commonly pronounced "fàn" in other contexts). [...]
You might occasionally see "凡高" (Fángāo) as an alternative, but "梵高" is the official and more widely used version in mainland media, textbooks, and art circles. [...]

(In subsequent discussion, Deepseek claimed, "Fun fact: If you say 梵高 as fàngāo, most Chinese will still understand you - but art professionals will gently correct you to fángāo!")

At Baidu Zhidao, there's a question: 梵高是fán还是fàn?
Seven out of nine respondents say "fán".
https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1241019704082381059.html?sort=11&rn=5&pn=0

Listen to 梵高 in the first second of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSDZsZE254Q
Diff:
# - 梵高 梵高 [Fan2 Gao1] /Vincent Van Gogh (1853-1890), Dutch post-Impressionist painter/
# + 梵高 梵高 [[Fan4 Gao1]] /Vincent Van Gogh (1853-1890), Dutch post-Impressionist painter/
 
# Editor:
- 梵高 梵高 [Fan2 Gao1] /Vincent Van Gogh (1853-1890), Dutch post-Impressionist painter/
+ 梵高 梵高 [[Fan4gao1]] /Vincent van Gogh (1853-1890), Dutch post-Impressionist painter/also pr. [Fan2gao1]/
 
- 梵谷 梵谷 [Fan4 gu3] /Vincent Van Gogh (1853-1890), Dutch post-Impressionist painter (Tw)/
+ 梵谷 梵谷 [[Fan4gu3]] /(Tw) Vincent van Gogh (1853-1890), Dutch post-Impressionist painter/also pr. [Fan2gu3]/
 
- 凡高 凡高 [Fan2 Gao1] /Vincent Van Gogh (1853-1890), Dutch post-Impressionist painter/
+ 凡高 凡高 [[Fan2gao1]] /Vincent van Gogh (1853-1890), Dutch post-Impressionist painter/
By MDBG 2025
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