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| Processed by: | richwarm (2024-12-23 20:29:26 UTC) |
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<< review queue entry 80737 - submitted by 'cws' >> An example of net from ChatGPT: 渔民用罗捕捉河里的鱼 "The fishermen used a net to catch fish in the river." Unihan definition: net for catching birds; gauze -- http://hanzidb.org/character/罗 There's a luo1 in hanzidb.org, but it does not include the meaning I asked ChatGPT about it, here's the reply: { Yes, 罗 has the pronunciation luō in specific contexts, but this usage is rare and not as commonly known as the pronunciation luó. Example: 用手罗水。 (Yòng shǒu luō shuǐ.) "Use your hands to scoop water." In such cases, the pronunciation luō is more regionally or contextually specific and may not be widely recognized in formal or standard Mandarin. } I asked where it is used to mean as a trap, ChatGPT's reply: { Yes, 罗 (luó) can mean a "trap" or something used to ensnare, metaphorically or literally. It aligns with its meaning as a "net" or a device used for catching, such as in hunting or capturing prey. Examples of 罗 as a Trap: 1. Literal Usage: 猎人设下罗捕捉野兽。 (Liè rén shè xià luó bǔ zhuō yě shòu.) "The hunter set a trap to catch wild animals." In this case, 罗 refers to a literal trap, such as a net or snare. 2. Figurative Usage: 他的话中藏着罗，想让我掉进去。 (Tā de huà zhōng cáng zhe luó, xiǎng ràng wǒ diào jìn qù.) "There’s a trap hidden in his words, trying to make me fall into it." Here, 罗 is used metaphorically to describe a deceptive or manipulative trap. } When used as a verb, to trap, the reply: { When 罗 (luó) is used as a verb meaning "to trap" or "to ensnare," it often appears in classical or literary Chinese contexts. While not common in modern spoken Mandarin, it can still be encountered in certain expressions or poetic usage. Example Sentence (Verb Usage): 他们在树林中罗住了那只野兔。 (Tāmen zài shùlín zhōng luó zhùle nà zhī yětù.) "They trapped the wild rabbit in the forest." Here, 罗 is used as an action verb to mean setting or using a trap to catch something. In more modern contexts, this verb usage might be less frequent, with phrases like 捕捉 (bǔ zhuō) or 设陷阱 (shè xiàn jǐng) being more commonly used instead. } ------------------------- Editor: Thank you for your submission. While ChatGPT (CG) can be a helpful tool, it's important to remember that, as stated on their website, "ChatGPT can make mistakes," and anything it says that you don't already know needs to be checked. CG can be a starting point, but we recommend verifying its content using additional, high-quality sources before submitting proposals. For example, you could cross-check definitions or explanations with reputable Chinese language references. The Unihan database, which you cited, is not considered a high-quality reference for this purpose because it primarily provides character-level information, such as pronunciations, brief definitions, and example compounds, but lacks the detailed explanations, contextual usage notes, and real-world examples offered by more comprehensive Chinese dictionaries. In future submissions, please provide only corroborated information and supporting references, rather than quoting CG answers directly. This approach helps ensure the accuracy and reliability of CC-CEDICT. It would also be helpful to include examples of usage for the various senses of a word, but these should come from authentic material written by native speakers rather than being generated by CG. For instance, your CG-generated example sentence 渔民用罗捕捉河里的鱼 contains the phrase 用罗捕捉, which appears in only four instances on the web, according to Google, compared to over 5,000 instances of 用渔网捕捉. This discrepancy suggests that 用罗捕捉 may be unnatural in modern Chinese. Additionally, the ABC dictionary indicates that 罗 is a "b.f." (bound form) for the "net" sense, meaning it typically combines with other characters (e.g., 罗网) and is not commonly used as a standalone word in modern Chinese. The CG example, however, incorrectly implies that it can be. |
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# - 羅 罗 [luo2] /gauze/to collect/to gather/to catch/to sift/ # + 羅 罗 [[luo2]] /gauze; net; trap/to collect; to gather/to catch; to trap/to sift/ |