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| Processed by: | richwarm (2021-04-01 21:32:16 GMT) |
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<< review queue entry 67824 - submitted by 'aaronwong' >> This new slang sense of "凡尔赛" can be used as a verb, as shown in the following: 都是文化人,如何高级“凡尔赛”? -步考公知 我来教你怎么高级凡尔赛。 By the way, I sent you a DM two weeks ago, explaining why I believe "to doxx" to be an answer to the Chinese idea of 人肉, but I haven't got a reply. I wonder if you ever got it? ------------------------------------------------ Editor: The examples I found were adjectival usage. Thanks for the verb usage examples. It helps to have examples of usage -- please include more of them in your submissions. I have sent you at least three emails. Two of them were in reply to emails from you. There is one (but only one) other person I know who has failed to receive emails from me, but when I used a different account (my gmail account), he does get my messages. Alternatively, your system may be sending my emails to trash or spam folders. I'll try resending my reply by gmail. Let me know if you get it. In the meantime, here are the details of our correspondence: On 14 March, I received the following email from you. <QUOTE> Admittedly, "renrou" is more about the manhunt than revealing information, but they are the two sides of a coin. In the case of "renrou", the search is not merely a naive finding of a person's info with his/her name or ID provided. Rather similar to the concept of doxing, the goal is to expose the target that attracts their wrath to humiliation and perhaps punishment through online channels. "Renrou" searches are invariably driven by the collaboratve sharing of the target's private details, and they always end up with the publication of their personal information, including date of birth, address, phone number and more. Once tracked down, the target has no secret. Therefore, I believe "to dox sb" is a close if not an exact synonym of "renrou". <UNQUOTE> The same day, I sent you the following email reply: <QUOTE> Hi Aaron 1) From what I can see, doxing is *typically* the goal of a renrou, and should therefore be mentioned in the definition of renrou. But I think you're overstating your case in using words like "invariably" and "always". 2) Here are two examples of doxing: a) "I'm disappointed Newsweek decide to dox the Nakamoto family, and regret talking to Leah." ("Leah" was the Newsweek reporter who interviewed this person and obtained information about the Nakamoto family.) b) "Ashley Madison was an online dating site that catered towards people interested in dating outside of committed relationships. A hacker group made demands of the management behind Ashley Madison; when those demands were not met, the group then released sensitive user data, thereby doxing millions of people in the process." In these examples, doxing merely denotes making people's private information public. Tracking down that information through a collaborative effort is not part of the meaning of the word "dox". So I don't accept that dox and renrou are "close or exact synonyms". 3) We already have a definition of 人肉搜索 that mentions doxing: /to crowdsource information about sb or sth (often as a form of vigilantism resulting in doxing)/ I will change the wording of our definition of 人肉 to match this. And I'll change "often" to "typically" in both entries. Thanks for prompting a review of 人肉. Rich <UNQUOTE> 12 hours later, I received another email from you with the same message as the first email. I replied as follows: <QUOTE> Hi Aaron I received the same message from you 12 hours ago and replied to it. Perhaps you didn't receive my reply? Regards Rich <UNQUOTE> In case you didn't notice, I altered the definitions of 人肉 and 人肉搜索 around the same time as follows: 1) changing "often" to "typically" 2) bringing the wording of the 人肉 def into line with 人肉搜索 3) Thanks to aaronwong for bringing this to our attention. Diff: - 人肉 人肉 [ren2 rou4] /to crowdsource information about sb or sth (abbr. for 人肉搜索[ren2 rou4 sou1 suo3])/human (used attributively, as in 人肉盾牌[ren2 rou4 dun4 pai2], human shield)/ + 人肉 人肉 [ren2 rou4] /to crowdsource information about sb or sth (typically as a form of vigilantism resulting in doxing) (abbr. for 人肉搜索[ren2 rou4 sou1 suo3])/human (used attributively, as in 人肉盾牌[ren2 rou4 dun4 pai2], human shield)/ - 人肉搜索 人肉搜索 [ren2 rou4 sou1 suo3] /to crowdsource information about sb or sth (often as a form of vigilantism resulting in doxing)/ + 人肉搜索 人肉搜索 [ren2 rou4 sou1 suo3] /to crowdsource information about sb or sth (typically as a form of vigilantism resulting in doxing)/ Ref: https://cc-cedict.org/editor/editor.php?log_id=71781&return=ListChanges&handler=ViewLogEntry |
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# 凡爾賽 凡尔赛 [Fan2 er3 sai4] /Versailles (near Paris)/(slang) ostensibly modest, but in fact boastful (as in humblebragging)/ # - 凡爾賽 凡尔赛 [Fan2 er3 sai4] /Versailles (near Paris)/(slang) ostensibly modest, but in fact boastful (as in humblebragging)/ + 凡爾賽 凡尔赛 [Fan2 er3 sai4] /Versailles (near Paris)/(slang) to humblebrag/ostensibly modest, but in fact boastful/ |