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Processed by: ycandau (2016-03-06 11:40:01 UTC)
Comment: << review queue entry 55965 - submitted by 'richwarm' >>
"absolute conviction" makes it sound like one is convinced that one is right, whereas 誠服 seems to be about being convinced that *sb else* is right.

"to submit totally" leaves it open as to whether one is happy and willing to place oneself in an inferior position, or not.
诚服, on the other hand, seems to be about being convinced that the other person is indeed right.
And it seems to be more about acceptance of a another's point of view than abasement ("total submission").

心悅誠服 does not appear to be about being "cheerful" and "delighted" so much as "willing" and "convinced".
Words like "cheerful" probably come from an overly literal translation of a Chinese definition.

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她就心悅誠服了
[The situation remained unchanged until July 1992 when, two days after she finished her senior high school entrance examinations, I took her to New Zealand. Once again I put my reasons to her, and] this time she saw things my way. [She was ahead of her classmates in math and could help them out in exchange for help with English. She was thus able to adjust quickly to school in New Zealand.]

千達納接連看了三十多本奧修書籍,心悅誠服的成為奧修門徒,並致力將奧修的智慧引進台灣。
Thereafter Lin read more than 30 Osho books in a row, happily becoming a sincere follower and devoting himself to introducing the wisdom of Osho into Taiwan.

這群孩子來到九天,多數住在宮廟旁一整排的貨櫃屋裡,24小時跟著團長許振榮練功,生活起居則由「姑姑」許玉宜(許振榮姊姊)一手照料。如何能馴服這群「相鬥雞」(鬥雞),讓他們心悅誠服地服從團規、辛苦練功?
Upon arriving at Jyou-tian, most of the members take up residence in a row of trailers alongside the temple and train with Hsu around the clock. Hsu's sister, Hsu Yu-yi, acts as their "auntie," taking care of their daily needs. How does Hsu manage to get these young toughs in line and training hard?

他對威權式教育體制的種種限制,逐漸不再心悅誠服地接受。
Used to educating himself through reading, he found it harder and harder to submit to the many limitations of the formal educational system.
Diff:
- 誠服 诚服 [cheng2 fu2] /absolute conviction/to submit totally/
+ 誠服 诚服 [cheng2 fu2] /to be completely convinced/to fully accept another person's views/
 
- 心悅誠服 心悦诚服 [xin1 yue4 cheng2 fu2] /cheerful and committed (idiom from Mencius 孟子)/delighted and sincerely willing/
# + 心悅誠服 心悦诚服 [xin1 yue4 cheng2 fu2] /to be genuinely convinced (idiom)/
+ 心悅誠服 心悦诚服 [xin1 yue4 cheng2 fu2] /to submit cheerfully/to accept willingly (idiom)/
By MDBG 2025
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