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| Processed by: | richwarm (2012-11-06 19:07:52 UTC) |
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<< review queue entry 43101 - submitted by 'richwarm' >> I processed this (rejected as a construct) but monigeria would like to have it reconsidered. What do others think? ============================== monigeria's original comments ~ http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/29009880.html&__bd_tkn__=2e8f4d67372b98335251be3ea6bd35ffcb3890f78078338d51fed8133ea5c69d362ad36bb4bcda3b39bb3949f6bbe47087ac3af56e60b1f4e7eb60157a55fd32946fa1f840491fc7006f3079d040c97b3e7793710f5ecc89a24f42787d5b3421c46f79403fb4afdbe97deabbc9da8b0bc23420f54b 边缘人是什么意思？ 如果是局外人，那就是outsider http://www.baidu.com/s?tn=monline_5_dg&ie=utf-8&bs=%E8%BE%B9%E7%BC%98%E4%BA%BA+%E8%8B%B1%E6%96%87&f=8&rsv_bp=1&rsv_spt=3&wd=%E8%BE%B9%E7%BC%98%E4%BA%BA+outsider&rsv_sug3=2&rsv_sug=0&rsv_sug1=2&rsv_sug4=104&inputT=1509 ”关于社会体制边缘人（Outsider）“ ================================= My comments ~ A 邊緣人 is just what you'd expect from its composition 邊緣+人 -- a person from the 邊緣 (the fringe, the margins). 造成雙方認知差距過大，對話困難，使得視障者成為職場上的邊緣人。 The absence of a level informational playing field forces the visually challenged to the margins of the job market and their professional careers. 必需儘量融入當地文化，為弱勢族群及邊緣人服務。 Moreover, they were to make every effort to integrate themselves into the local culture and to minister to the needs of marginalized people. 有些一看就知道是社會邊緣人，... You could tell that some were from the margins of society, ... ====================================== monigeria's further comments ~ Sorry just want to add some notes on this entry because I don't believe it's as simple as a compostion (this is at least what I've been told by several Chinese people). Perhaps also my notes weren't detailed enough. Guifan (thank you pleco) has the entry as this: 指在政治，经济，文化和意识形态等各方面不被关注而游离于主流社会之外的人：不能让流动人口成为计划生育工作的~。 百度百科：http://baike.baidu.com/view/114727.htm first says that this is a: 心理学名词 so this is also a professional word in Psychology...not just a simple composition...also mentions the following：边缘人这一概念最早由德国心理学家K·勒提出，泛指对两个社会群体的参与都不完全，处于群体之间的人。广义地说边缘人指一个人在某方面有自己的独到之处，让别人在短时间内难以理解；也有极端的因素，这种有好也有坏。狭义地理解边缘人是指各个方面都脱离主流社会群体的方式。 So yeah it has a surface meaing and it also has a more, fully-developed, meaning also. You can have a look at the rest of the article to confirm this. Sorry if i'm being too 计较 or 龟毛 here... but I think this word deserves to be reviewed again. thanks for checking it out. ========= One more example from TP ~ 國家社會有責任負擔起類似植物人或社會邊緣人、弱勢族群的照養工作。 The nation and society have responsibility for these patients and others on the margins of society, and a responsibility to care for the weak. Editor: On reconsideration, we decided that it's worth having an entry for 邊緣人. |
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# 邊緣人 边缘人 [bian1 yuan2 ren2] /outsider/ + 邊緣人 边缘人 [bian1 yuan2 ren2] /marginal person (sb who is not part of mainstream society)/marginal man (term coined by social psychologist Kurt Lewin, referring to a person in transition between two cultures or social groups, not fully belonging to either)/ |