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Change log entry 40810
Processed by: richwarm (2012-04-11 20:37:41 GMT)
Comment: << review queue entry 39864 - submitted by 'slacka' >>
Yes, to bargain is too soft and does not comprise the full meaning of 杀价, but
to beat down a price sounds awkward and too literal. I think to hard bargain is
much more natural definition. Good catch on it being used from the seller's
perspective!

Editor: It doesn't sound at all "awkward and too literal" to me; nor, presumably,
to the native English-speaking editor who wrote the definition originally.

It's in the Oxford Learner's Dictionary, for example ~
"beat somebody/something down (to something)
to persuade somebody to reduce the price at which they are selling something
He wanted $8000 for the car but I beat him down to $6000.
I beat down the price to $6000."
http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/beat_1

Also ~
beat down = 1 ... 2 to (force to) lower a price by bargaining
"We beat the price down"
"We beat him down to a good price."
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/beat

Lots of Web examples ~
"After finding a cheap sub willing to quote a price, they try to beat the price down even further."
http://www.servicemagicproconnection.com/getting-quotes-from-other-contractors/

etc.

Moreover, "drive a hard bargain" often refers to the seller *refusing* to lower the price,
whereas we are aiming for the sense where the *buyer* is forcing the price down.
Diff:
# - 殺價 杀价 [sha1 jia4] /to beat down the price/to haggle/to slash one's prices/
# + 殺價 杀价 [sha1 jia4] /to drive a hard bargain/to haggle/to slash one's prices/
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