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| Processed by: | richwarm (2026-07-31 20:55:40 UTC) |
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<< review queue entry 88664 - submitted by 'agedits' >> How are the shang4 and le5 separated here? Is le5 a modern version of liao3 AND a monosyllabic word that stands alone? However, if le5 is an aspect marker it clearly needs to be attached to it's verb, as per GB/T 16159-2012 6.1.2.1 动词与后面的动态助词“着”、“了”、“过”，连写。As it does not fall under rule 6.1.2.2 句末的“了”兼做语气助词，分写。 And also see this rule: 6.1.2.3 动词与所带的宾语，分写。例如： Separate the verb and the object it takes. kàn xìn (看信) chī yú (吃鱼) kāi wánxiào (开玩笑) jiāoliú jīngyàn (交流经验) 动宾式合成词中间插入其他成分的，分写。例如： Insert other components in the middle of the verb compound word and write it separately. jūle yī gè gōng (鞠了一个躬) lǐguo sān cì fà (理过三次发) Or am I missing something? --------------------------- Editor: Yes, le5 should be attached to the verb here. The rules, as explained in Yin Binyong's "Chinese Romanization: Pronunciation and Orthography" (sections 9.2 and 9.3), are a little more nuanced than the brief wording in GB/T 16159: PARAPHRASE OF YIN BINYONG (using examples Yin gives) The particle le 了 (indicating a completed action) is sometimes, but not always, written as a single unit with its verb. This is because le, unlike zhe 着 and guo 过, may be separated from its verb by other elements; and also because le itself can act as a mood particle as well as a tense particle. 1) When le occurs in the middle of a sentence or phrase and immediately follows a verb or verb construction written as a single unit, le is written together with that verb or verb construction: kànle yī chǎng diànyǐng (看了一场电影) 2) When le occurs in the middle of a sentence or phrase written as two or more units, then le is written separately: shōushi hǎo le zìjǐ de xíngli (收拾好了自己的行李) 3) When le occurs at the end of a phrase or sentence (that is, immediately before punctuation), it is written separately from other elements: Xīnnián kuài dào le, xiǎoháirmen yòu gāi wánr biānpào le. (新年快到了，小孩儿们又该玩儿鞭炮了。) END OF PARAPHRASE In the case of 上了年纪, Rule 1 applies, so the correct orthography is shàngle niánjì. |
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- 上了年紀 上了年纪 [[shang4 le5 nian2ji4]] /to be getting on in years; to be of the older generation/ + 上了年紀 上了年纪 [[shang4le5 nian2ji4]] /to be getting on in years; to be of the older generation/ |