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Syntax

The basic format of a CEDICT entry is:

Traditional Simplified [pin1 yin1] /English equivalent 1/equivalent 2/

For example:

中國 中国 [Zhong1 guo2] /China/Middle Kingdom/

Additionally:

  • The Chinese word should consist of one or more Chinese characters, without any spaces in it
  • The Mandarin pinyin should follow in the format below:
    • It should have a space between each pinyin syllable
    • Each pinyin syllable should have a tone number. Use 5 for the light tone (e.g. ni3 hao3 ma5)
    • Raw tones should be used:
      • Tone sandhi is not indicated (e.g., ni3 hao3 is not changed to ni2 hao3)
      • Although “yi” and “bu” have various modifications in tone, depending on what follows them, these are not indicated in writing (e.g., “one horse” is pronounced “yi4 pi3 ma3” but written “yi1 pi3 ma3”, and “not enough” is pronounced “bu2 gou4” but written “bu4 gou4”)
      • Word-related changes to neutral tone, however, are indicated. These are especially common with reduplicated forms (e.g., use ma1 ma5, not ma1 ma1; ba4 ba5, not ba4 ba4; kan4 kan5, not kan4 kan4; xiang3 xiang5 (“take under consideration”), not xiang3 xiang3). This isn't limited to reduplicated forms, e.g., ming2 bai5, not ming2 bai2; cong1 ming5, not cong1 ming2.
        It's best to keep in mind that Pinyin is about Mandarin words, not Chinese characters.
    • For pinyin that uses the ü, represent it with a u followed by a colon (e.g. nu:3 ren2)
    • Capitalize pinyin for proper nouns (e.g. Bei3 jing1)
  • The English definitions should be separated with the '/' character (e.g. /English equivalent 1/equivalent 2/).
  • American English should be used for the English definitions
  • Do not add definite or indefinite articles (e.g. “a”, “an”, “the”, etc) to English nouns unless they are necessary to distinguish the word from another usage type or homonym

General principles

Various trivial style things:

  • Don't use parts of speech. Instead try to give an indication of grammatical usage within the English definition. CEDICT is a human readable descriptive dictionary, not a resource intended for machine processing.
  • Abbreviations etc cf e.g. i.e. do not need any further punctuation.
  • Extended meanings indicated by lit. .. fig. combination when appropriate or when a common expression refers back to a classical incident or chengyu, one can refer to it with cf (incident in Records of the Historian).

Choice of entries and translations

The current CEdict database contains a considerable number of infelicities, inaccuracies, omissions, and actual errors. As an ideal, new entries should be checked against 2 or 3 different sources (e.g. the online and paper dictionaries). Care is needed, since the dictionaries copy from one another – an entirely bogus entry in CEdict is copied uncritically onto thousands of websites within a few months.

A Chinese word for which a Google query with the following syntax results in many thousand of hits should probably be added to CEdict, with translations corresponding to the main usages.

+"combination of characters"

(the +“” combination forces Google to match both a whole word and to ignore variants)

General principles of translation

The English should be meaningful, not horribly ugly, and bear a close relation to the Chinese meaning. It should correspond to something that could be used naturally by an English speaker (I think Arthur Waley has some advice saying that just because a text is about magnetohydrodynamics, it doesn't follow that it has to be horribly ugly).

On the other hand, a translation always loses something, and the translator can compensate by substituting an English equivalent (e.g. a biblical or Shakespearian allusion in place of a Confucian idiom).

Name of person should say dates if possible, what interest the person has (writer, general, pop star etc), brief indications of CV (e.g. took part in a revolution, was murdered, wrote famous book etc).

Names of plants, animals, musical instruments should give common name and scientific name when appropriate; there is a particular problem of how specific the word is – a plant may mean a minor variety within a species, or may refer to an entire taxonomic family. Different writers will use it to mean the common family, or the particular item of salad on their plate at present.

Most words have more than one meaning, and more than one grammatical function. Care is needed not to concentrate only on a specific occurrence to the exclusion of others. e.g . the actual occurrence may be a verb in the past participle (say “overthrown”) whereas the word may also mean “destruction”, “to topple” etc.

There are 20,000 Chinese characters in the more advanced dictionaries, of which many are obscure, never used, and will not have correct definitions in online or paper dictionaries. This is the boundary of knowledge. (Exactly the same applies to big English dictionaries.) These obscure characters appear on modern websites, and one sometimes needs to give a definition. It is reasonable to admit (precise meaning unknown), and give an indication of what one can deduce.

Variants

Many characters have variants, sometimes more than one, sometimes with identical meaning or quite different meanings. Some choice of variants found in texts on websites will arise because of the different input methods, and the user may have had no intention of using the variant. It often happens that Google tells you that +“Xx” occurs 200 times more frequently than +“XX”, in which case Xx should be in CEdict as a regular entry, and XX only as “variant of Xx”.

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